Rob and Jason are joined by Titus Winters from Google. They first discuss some news of C++ tools, including Sourcetrail going open source and C++ Build Insights for Visual Studio. Then Titus goes into what the C++ ABI is, what breaking the ABI means, and whether or not we should consider breaking the ABI in future versions of C++. Titus also shares some a preview of his upcoming book 'Software Engineering at Google.'